Minn. Orchestra, musicians fail to agree; lockout threat looms

  • Article by: GRAYDON ROYCE , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 30, 2012 - 8:40 PM

Both sides reject offers. SPCO agrees to "play and talk."

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totaltruthSep. 30, 12 5:14 PM

""Principal trombone Doug Wright, a member of the negotiating committee, said Saturday that musicians have obtained nearly 6,000 signatures from supporters.""

And exactly what does that accomplish??? I am sure that management could get many thousands of signatures to support their side...

No wonder an agreement cannot be made of the musicians are spending their time accumulating signatures rather than coming up with a counter-offer...

It seems that the union is failing the musicians!!!!!

ranger78Sep. 30, 12 5:25 PM

Revenue is down. In lieu of salary cuts, just lay several of the musucians off. That's the reality of not enough money.

cmkellerSep. 30, 12 5:36 PM

What the management is doing is unconscionable. They are a failure to the organization and a failure to the community.

muskie69Sep. 30, 12 5:38 PM

We unionize freaking "Musicians" in this state!?! People get paid to sing? Why is this not a hobby like bowling or city dodge ball leagues where people do what they enjoy for free......lock these people out until they agree to not accept a paycheck. Let them join there local church orchestra. Whats more important - tax money going to pay legit low income people who actually have issues that legitimately need help or to help pay for an orchestra? Its not to hard to answer.

akadamsSep. 30, 12 5:55 PM

Management should be willing to talk. Their position is disgraceful.

erikj3Sep. 30, 12 6:08 PM

I'm not saying some cuts aren't necessary, but would YOU voluntarily take a $45,000 pay cut, at a time when your employer is spending $52 million renovating the building you work in?

akadamsSep. 30, 12 6:31 PM

"Totaltruth"...gathering signatures provides evidence of support while informing those who sign of their position. This is not a waste of time, it's a good use of time, while the negotiating committee works on possible counter-offers. Did you really not understand that, or were you anxious to have an anti-union comment up first?

pdxtranSep. 30, 12 7:55 PM

ranger78: Another commenter who doesn't know how orchestras work. "Just laying off a few musicians" is like just laying off a few members of a football team.

pdxtranSep. 30, 12 7:59 PM

muskie69:"People get paid to sing? Why is this not a hobby like bowling or city dodge ball leagues where people do what they enjoy for free."---I do hope this is a joke. No, in this case they get paid to play instruments. If you think a church orchestra could substitute for a professional symphony orchestra, I might ask you why your local high school football team couldn't substitute for the Vikings and why the Vikings don't just play "for fun."

pdxtranSep. 30, 12 8:00 PM

totaltruth: They did come up with two counter-offers, being willing to play without a contract during negotiations or submitting to arbitration. The trouble with arbitration from the management's point of view is that the arbitration team would insist on seeing the orchestra's books.


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