Musicians facing lockout if no deal

  • Article by: GRAYDON ROYCE , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 28, 2012 - 12:05 AM

Minnesota Orchestra board has made "final offer."

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furguson11Sep. 27, 1212:46 PM

Crystal Sugar all over again. No one is immune.

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heiniemanushSep. 27, 12 1:01 PM

10 weeks paid vacation a year! Sounds like these guys should get to work.

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hansaSep. 27, 12 1:26 PM

These are WORLD CLASS musicians. NFL gets millions...... I thank these gifted hardworking musicians from the bottom of my heart and hope for a positive outcome.

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anewmanSep. 27, 12 2:11 PM

The Minnesota Orchestra is funded primarily by one percenters who also form a core group of the patrons. Yet again, the one percenters are squeezing a group of people who actually work, work hard, and are phenomenally talented to boot. The Orchestra certainly didn't have any trouble finding the money to build a gigantic new, and basically unnecessary, lobby addition funded, once again, by one percenters and yours truly, the taxpayers of Minnesota. Why squeeze the people who actually make the organization possible? If you resent how much the musicians make, ask yourself whether you could do what they do. We're just in a continuing downward spiral as a society.

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dolce77Sep. 27, 12 2:21 PM

I may not have been considered a WORLD CLASS musician but I did once supplement my income by performing on the trumpet on a part time basis over a number of years. In reading this, I was amazed at how much these musicians are getting paid. Factoring in the amount of paid vacation time, sick pay, and the pension contributions including the proposed pay cut and I still think it is a sweet deal. I can tell you that "steady pay" is the biggest concern for any professional musician, world class or not. I scoff at the individual trying to compare classical musicians to the NFL. There is no comparison whatsoever in terms of popularity and what the general public is willing to pay out for those types of entertainment. Times are tough and entertainment is a luxury. I will have no sympathy for these musicians if they do not take the offer putting themselves out of work in an economy where many have no choice about their unemployment status.

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jimmybobbySep. 27, 12 2:28 PM

anewman: wow you speak with such contempt for the people that largely buys the tickets to fund these musicians. You are complaining that the wealthy aren't buying enough tickets? Or do you think they should donate more to the Orchestra? Help me out here. How many performances have YOU attended on your own dime? The MN Orchestra needs these concensions because they simply aren't able to afford their operating expenses. I fail to see how that is the 'fault' of the 1%. Odd argument. If Orchestra tickets were less expensive, they would probably attract more people and that would make them more viable. But to cut prices, first you need to reduce your overall fixed costs. Hey if the musicians think the mgmt offer is inadequate, they are welcome to take their talents elsewhere. I am sure there are other orchestras just lining up to pay 130k a year to a violinist.....

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totaltruthSep. 27, 12 2:33 PM

We need to keep in mind that most of these musicians supplement their income in their off-season through giving lessons, playing festivals, etc... So do not feel that this is their only income....

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cheiron55402Sep. 27, 12 2:44 PM

What is happening? It seems like now almost everyone is in a union.

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furguson11Sep. 27, 12 2:58 PM

"totaltruth-We need to keep in mind that most of these musicians supplement their income in their off-season through giving lessons, playing festivals, etc" totaltruth has a point, I took lessons from a member of the MN Orchestra. But it was through the UofM, so I doubt that they made a mint teaching.

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anewmanSep. 27, 12 3:00 PM

jimmybobby: How big of a pay cut have *you* taken this year? Where does this sort of thing stop? Is 45k too much to ask to be a virtuoso at your profession? 60k? 80k? At least the concertgoers will have a really nice taxpayer-supported lobby in which to enjoy their mediocre orchestra.

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