2Day's 2 Cents: In retrospect, these Twins starters look darn good

  • Article by: MICHAEL RAND , Star Tribune
  • Updated: September 3, 2012 - 1:08 AM

A few words on behalf of decent starting pitching.

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hauts81Sep. 2, 1211:34 PM

That's like looking at Nishi and saying hey, Nicky Punto was pretty darn good! The organization has to stop settling for "good enough."

firefly70Sep. 2, 1211:59 PM

Always thought Carlos Silva was overrated. He gave up A LOT of hits and seemed to be more a beneficiary of stellar defense behind him and good run support. Wasn't at all disappointed when he signed the contract with Seattle. You'd think Seattle teams would learn by now to stop trying to sign Minnesota "stars" away from us - Carlos Silva, Nate Burleson, Sidney Rice (although that one still has potential to turn out okay for them).

Dantes929Sep. 2, 1211:59 PM

A couple years Nicky Punto WAS pretty darn good. Three seasons over .277 with great D. Fans may have looked at Slowey and Blackburn as # 4 and 5 starters but if they were, they were very, very good #4 and 5 starters (fact is they were good #3's). Take a look at baseball reference for the current rotation. Heck, look at a lot of teams and a lot of seasons and you will see most teams have had guys in their rotations that have ERA's over 5. Take a look at the 87 Twins. Do the math. If most teams average 5 runs a game it makes guys with 4 ERA's very valuable.

fjbarrowsSep. 3, 12 1:11 AM

Notice a common thread with Blackburn, Baker and Slowey? Not a single one of them got any better as a pitcher once they got to the major league level and got the opportunity to be coached by Anderson and Gardenhire. Regression, regression, regression. Heck, you could throw Lohse into that mix as well. These guys cannot get incremental improvement out of anybody! Do you really think Deduno and Diamond are going to improve next year? Absolutely not, unless the Anderson/Gardenhire track record improves.

lindy_frank123Sep. 3, 12 1:38 AM

nothing to "wet your pants" over...average to below average...no real bonafide arms in there...like a Tom Petty song says, "as we celebrate mediocrity"....

shpadoinkleSep. 3, 12 4:10 AM

Radke was a tough competitor. He never complained. He pitched his last year with a bum arm--his rotator joint was described as "bone grinding on bone." Yet he took the ball. I miss guys like him and Gaetti.

shanenordSep. 3, 12 8:50 AM

blackburn has always been terrible. THe only reason he is still on the roster is because of that game 163. People seem to think every time he takes the mound that is the performance they will see. Guy has been a joke. To bad he will be the #2 or 3 starter next year. He will get shelled for 8 straight starts, then have one decent outing which buys him 8 more starts. its a joke.

callsaulSep. 3, 12 9:12 AM

Come one come all and sit while Michael Rand and Dante 929 regail us all with the delightfully folksy tail of remeberance. Oh how we long for the days of Silva and Lohse. NOT. We've been waiting patiently for the Twins to figure out how to draft quality pitchers but they can't seem to understand stuff and potential is more important than control and pitch-ability. Tampa and Oakland don't seem to have troubles identifying young stud pitchers. Also Cincinnati, Miami, and the dodgers all look to have future ace type pi8tchers coming through their systems as well. Why can't the Twins draft even 1? Because the criteria they are looking for and finding consistently leaves them with a whole bunch of guys who have LOW ceilings but it's OK because they have good control and "get right after it". BOOOOOOOOOOOO

bgrahamSep. 3, 12 9:34 AM

Joe Mays was pretty good until he got hurt.

stanbobSep. 3, 1211:19 AM

As stated in earlier posts, who wouldn't look good in comparison to the current staff? And I wouldn't bet my life savings on Diamond improving or even continuing at this level under the guidance of anderson and garden ire.


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