Minneapolis police review up for debate

  • Article by: RANDY FURST , Star Tribune
  • Updated: August 17, 2012 - 12:04 AM

Meeting focuses on plan to scrap Minneapolis' all-civilian panel.

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ekl101Aug. 17, 12 1:10 AM

Civilian reviews of any organizations never work. Having a vested interest, besides getting back at cops because they tagged your mother, is not a way to give people the belief that their complaints are being heard. There is already several a systems in place that monitors police behavior, the city council and the justice system. The CRA needed to justify their existence by taking on all cases, giving the citizenry hope, knowing all the while that this was just a numbers game and the fact findings were null. The CRA got its numbers to report, the police got labeled as out of control, but the citizens did not receive the justice they were promised. The continuance of this smoke screen has been catching up to the CRA for some time now and it is finally getting to the point where enough is enough. The CRA has been broken from the beginning starting with the ‘Toledo Mudhen’ to the now director who believes cops should be on the board, but not as a voting member. When you understand the process of the CRA justifying their existence by taking by cases that has no merit you have to look no further as to their mediation program. In the mediation process the two involved are not in the same room and a ‘Mediator’ runs from room to room telling each other what the other had just said. When the statistics come out the CRA has again checked another box and the CRA has again justified its existence. Erroneous statistical data is the downfall of the CRA not the fact that ‘The Police Chief’ does not punish the officers. The city council doesn’t have a clue, if they did they would have questioned these tactics long ago, but then again look how crime statistics are being published to detour one from the facts, homicides are down, but shootings and shots fired are up. If you need civilians on the board to discipline cops for misconduct give the new process a chance to work. If you need a drug counselor you don’t get someone who never took drugs. When you need a cop you don’t call the sanitation department. Cops are better qualified to investigate cops, have civilians on the board, but not as voting members…..

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mohawk1953Aug. 17, 12 5:48 AM

Huh, I'm shocked this didn't work well. What do you expect when you get a small vocal group that believes their 'kind' can do no wrong. The reality is they are doing most of it. some people need to learn that if they just behave, keep their mouths shut and their hands in their own pockets, they will get in a lot less trouble. Go to school, get a job, be a productive member of society, and stop whining.

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zendogAug. 17, 12 6:10 AM

Because an officer would NEVER side with another officer. It's called Blue Code of Silence people. Google cops protecting cops and see how many stories pop up.

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jbpaperAug. 17, 12 6:30 AM

The problem is that these activist, and the CRA, are as bias, if not more bias, than the people they are claiming to be too bias to do the investigations.

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flakerangerAug. 17, 12 7:48 AM

Scholarly research shows that police cannot police themselves, thus the need for civilian review. It is not the civilian review who is to blame. Blame city council and the mayor for underfunding and mismanagement. Putting the civilian review board under the umbrella of the Civil Rights Department was disastrous. Civil Rights is mismanaged and the department of cronyism. Those is the city refer to it as the Department of Misfits, Malcontents and Ne'er-Do-Wells. Civilian Review should be a stand alone agency. Perhaps federal receivership is the answer?

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west336Aug. 17, 12 8:29 AM

If you want more people to attend these meetings maybe you should make the meeting announcements more public. I bet less than 1 in 10 people knew there was a meeting for proposing to disban an all-civilian police "watch dog".

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west336Aug. 17, 12 8:34 AM

mohawk1953: That may play a small part too but that's really not the problem here.....the police policing themselves is a SERIOUS conflict of interests, and I'd actually like to know what the benefits are from this proposal.....other than having a seriously biased agenda!

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leah_westAug. 17, 12 9:06 AM

Get some officers on the force who actually LIVE in Minneapolis, including North Minneapolis. Period. Having a bunch of cops from Hudson, WI doesn't work. Only then would a revamp like this possibly work because the community would begin to believe that the officers care about their communities too.

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garyglsAug. 17, 12 9:26 AM

A lot of great comments, and I agree, police can not police themselves BUT you can't have a group of these activists trying to "get back" at the cops. There has to be a group of people that could judge these on a case by case basis. These cops are way out of hand and many that are getting sued costing the city millions have already been up in front of this board before.

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ekl101Aug. 18, 12 2:09 PM

Lawyers, doctors, the military service, and even politicians police themselves. When a parent sees a cop and tells their kids that they will let the cops lock the kids up for being bad gets to the root of the problem. Civilians need to police cops because they cannot police themselves. If things don’t go your way you’ll take your ball and bat and go home. You have parents on the education board. You have parents on the park and recreation board. I guess professionals and civilians can come up with good recommendations to service the community in an reasonable way. Give the new board a chance we can only improve the dysfunctional practices of the CRA. And if it doesn’t work you cop haters have at least half to blame. Remember to call on a citizen the next time you are being victimized hopefully they will assist, but statistics show otherwise.

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