The debate over gay marriage is futile

  • Article by: Michael Kinsley , Bloomberg News.
  • Updated: July 27, 2012 - 12:23 PM

Does anybody believe that five years from now it will be harder than it is today for two women or two men to marry? I

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lopqwert52Jul. 27, 1212:34 PM

We are having the wrong debate on this. It should be why does the government reconize any marriage at all? It shouldn't. Churches and private institutions can do whatever they want.

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thomasalexJul. 27, 12 1:05 PM

@opqwert52 Because the Government is who regulates them. Marriage is not a religious institution, it's a State regulated contract. Religions love to act like they "own" and "created" marriage, which we know for a fact is false. Before the 1800's, marriage was a promise you made to the one you loved and wanted to be with forever, with no outside help from any religion.

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kd5757Jul. 27, 12 1:13 PM

We are reaching a tipping point in terms of public perception although it is not distributed equally throughout the country. While the amendment passed in North Carolina it most likely (and hopefully) will not pass in Minnesota. Regardless of the outcome, it is only a matter of time before the issue of same-sex marriage is settled in our highest court. Once in court, the proponents and opponents of same-sex marriage are compelled to provide testimony under oath and be subjected to cross examination. When this occurs, proponents of same-sex marriage have the advantage because our leading professional organizations that have unique expertise in the areas of human behavior, including human sexuality, child development, human social systems, research methodology, etc. are in favor of same-sex marriage based on their research. Anti-gay marriage groups know this and want to avoid court cases at all costs because their arguments about same-sex marriage harming society, harming children, etc. wither under close scrutiny. The anti-gay marriage folks are already reeling from recent loses in court(e.g., Prop 8, DOMA) and there is no indication that this trend will change.

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greatone_1970Jul. 27, 12 1:17 PM

Funny how 30 states and counting ban same sex marriage in some form, only one state has had its legislature legalize it (the others were judicially imposed), and the most recent poll in Minnesota shows heavy support in favor of our amendment, yet the momentum is supposedly in favor of it. Keep telling yourselves that.

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djstrykerJul. 27, 12 1:22 PM

Take the word marriage out of every legal document that denotes or recognizes beneficiaries and replace it with civil union. Debate over the semantics of a word is now over.

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Wally_99Jul. 27, 12 1:30 PM

"Twenty years from now, gay marriage will be so common that people might be forgiven for thinking that the Defense of Marriage Act was passed to protect gay marriage." Unlikely, Kinsley.

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wise1Jul. 27, 12 1:35 PM

"We are having the wrong debate on this. It should be why does the government reconize any marriage at all? It shouldn't. Churches and private institutions can do whatever they want."-----Then all the legal issues from joint filing income taxes to parental and children's rights to estate issues to visitation rights to well, you name it, and there would be no regulation nor consistency. Would you propose there be anarchy with relationships?

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wise1Jul. 27, 12 1:40 PM

"Debate over the semantics of a word is now over."-----Yes, if you eliminate marriage altogether that would be true. But if you relegate marriage strictly to religious organizations, there would be no legal status for those "marriages". Government MUST regulate such relationships.

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ranger1873Jul. 27, 12 1:41 PM

Of course it's a futile debate. Marriage is ordained by God, not by man, so God's definition is the only one that matters. Only one man and one woman can ever be truly married, despite whatever attempts are made by worldly forces to legitimize a lifestyle that is simply sin to God.

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wise1Jul. 27, 12 1:51 PM

"most recent poll in Minnesota shows heavy support in favor of our amendment, yet the momentum is supposedly in favor of it."-----I'm sorry, but I just sampled 8 national polls and find your claim wrong, the opposite seems true. Give me your poll and I will give you my list. Gay marriage is simply inevitable.

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