The planet still groans, not that we'd hear it

  • Article by: JAMES P. LENFESTEY
  • Updated: June 21, 2012 - 10:15 PM

The fossil-fuel lobby, and a complicit media, have silenced the alarm.

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davehougJun. 21, 1210:58 PM

Note to self: Next time don't insult those who ask questions. It just shuts down debate and makes both sides retreat instead of explore.

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goferfanzJun. 21, 1211:35 PM

No, it's more the readers who are groaning anytime we get the same old column from the same old columnist. Want to know why global warming isnt being mentioned? It's because a warming globe has been the gift of life, smashing all records for humanity-->both numbers and life expectancies, for plant life, for animal life. In MN alone, a few thousand years ago the entire state was a dead zone, buried in glaciers. Now, it has trillions upon trillion of life forms, from humans, to animals, to plant life, to the 10,000 lakes teaming with life. The planet isnt groaning, it's rejoicing. Too bad all good things come to an end, as the dinosaurs learned........

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diogenes99Jun. 21, 1211:52 PM

Fact: The earth has warmed less than 1 degree in 150 years. Nobel Laureate Dr. Ivar Giaever resigned from the APS because of the fraud being committed. He says less than 1 degree in 150 years proves the earths temperature is stable.

Fact: CO2 levels increase AFTER warming and do not cause warming. Verifiable by studying plant stomata data which is more accurate than ice core samples.

Poke NO because you don't like the truth but you cannot prove the facts wrong.

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goferfanzJun. 22, 1212:09 AM

"""Poke NO because you don't like the truth"""......... I wont poke NO because our national science organizations are a mess. The NAS and IOM, etc, are groups where only current members can choose new members. Think that is anti-science and a big cause of group-think syndrome? Ahh, YES. The trouble is these journalists masquerading as "science specialists" either dont this or dont realize why this is a problem. Just imagine a Supreme Court where the current members chose new members.....Or Congress.........or the President simply picking the new President. Yet, all the scientists concur on these controversial issues! Why would that be ;oD Meanwhile our shuttles blow-up, we cant even decide if baby aspirin is a good thing for adults, and we cant accurately predict the weather for tommorrow. But this climate science, well, that we got down cold...........really.........

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mcjoe1Jun. 22, 1212:28 AM

Say what you want about CO2 as a greenhouse gas, but what are you going to do as the acidity level of the oceans and all bodies of water as a result of the CO2 spike in the atmosphere?? Just in the past 20 years, Oceans are 10% more acidic. Over the next 40 years it's estimated that ocean acidity will double. Does CO2 have a big effect as a greenhouse gases? Absolutely.. it's very basic infrared atomic absorption. Are there more forces at play with climate change? Of course, Sure there are. Do you want live to see the ocean change in pH enough to really affect aquatic life? I don't.. Every gallon of gas you consume dumps 20 pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere. Go fill up with 15 gallons, that's 300 pounds. Of course most people don't realize this at all because it's in gas form, but it should be more shocking that it is 300 pounds of gas. I bet if people had to carry 200-300 pounds of trash out every week they'd be more aware of how much waste their lifestyle choices are producing.

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mcjoe1Jun. 22, 1212:45 AM

diogenes99: "Fact: The earth has warmed less than 1 degree in 150 years." --- Not sure where you get your information, but that number is way off by even anti-enviromentalist efforts. The Berkeley Earth Group is a group funded by the big oil Koch Family as an attempt to discredit other climate scientists. The results from the Berkeley Earth Group show that over the past 50 years the land surface warmed by 0.911oC (1.64oF). The worst part of higher temperatures is that warmer air can hold more moisture than cooler air, and water vapor has a much greater greenhouse effect than CO2.

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shushyn78Jun. 22, 1212:51 AM

If secular earth science is correct, the planet has been here for what, 5-6 billion years or so? In that time there has been catastrophic volcanoes belching sulfurous gas, molten lava and gritty ash clouds miles into the trophoshere obscuring sunlight; titanic earthquakes rending the continents apart with resultant massive tidal waves; and giant asteroids smashing into the planet and obliterating the atmosphere with poisonous, toxic gases. Wind and water erosion that utterly decimated all life and alternate epochs with jungles at the North Pole and glaciers stretching toward the Equator. This planet has taken everything that can be thrown at it and yet alarmists-with a straight face even, want you to believe that we are at some sort of tipping point from which there is no return. That is why the diatribes with their hockey stick graphs and "wink, wink" carbon footprints larger than 1000 ordinary citizens has no traction. The "science" has a data manipulated thesis and yet takes a giant unsupported leap issuing proclamations such as the "end is near". Be careful. You planet worshipers almost sound like the religious evangelicals you so thoroughly despise.

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norselandcJun. 22, 12 6:51 AM

The arctic ice cover will melt completely one of these years; then every year thereafter. This will intensify the melting of Greenland's ice sheets. The cold water entering the North Atlantic will interrupt the Gulf Stream. Europe will almost instantly develop a climate like northern Ontario rather than current conditions which resemble Oregon's coastal climate. I cannot imagine the fallout from this massive change. The other huge, destabilizing changes will involve access to fresh water. Whole metropoli will dry up due to altered weather patterns. Fortunately, I am 50 years old and will be dead before most of the carnage ensues.

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jrswanJun. 22, 12 6:57 AM

China is the largest investor in sustainable green energy. The U.S. needs to make the same kind of investment if we want to be competitive in the future. But our fossil fuel companies have the money. Unfortunately in congress money trumps logic.

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Wally_99Jun. 22, 12 7:01 AM

Qualification: about as pro man-made global warming as it can get.

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