Warmup has cities rethinking water ways

  • Article by: BILL McAULIFFE , Star Tribune
  • Updated: May 20, 2012 - 11:44 PM

An increase in storm water spurs communities to evaluate how they use, value or move it.

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strat1954May. 20, 12 9:53 PM

I must have missed something. Weren't we being told we were in a drought just a few weeks ago?

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dinojimMay. 20, 12 9:59 PM

Planning for heavy rainfall events and how the the current system can handle the water is one thing. Planning heavier rains because of hyped climate change is another. If all their global warming hype comes true maybe they should be worring about the oceam coming up the Mississippi River. Sounds like another climate group is going to get a bunch more government money for a study to me.

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ma2188May. 20, 1210:19 PM

"Seeley noted that annual precipitation in parts of south central and southeast Minnesota has increased up to 15 percent" Terms such as "parts" and "up to" indicate cherry picking of data, or to be more scientific to be printed in the Star Tribune, I guess I should write" that there is strong potential that parts this article may be less than 100% accurate

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barney_69May. 20, 1210:25 PM

Pipe the extra water into White Bear lake. Two problems solved for the windmillers!

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gofigerMay. 20, 1210:57 PM

Handwringing begins by local watershed districts to destroy natural drainage for their idea of where they think the water should be. Visionaries, thousands of little mosquito pits in the backs of every home and townhome complex. Beautiful.

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quadrant5May. 20, 1211:38 PM

But didn't the Star-Trib report that it was Ag field tile that was responsible for increased stream bed and stream bank erosion? Perhaps it's the increased rainfall.

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jhb8426May. 20, 1211:39 PM

Expanding wetlands, shrinking wetlands. Which is it? C'mon kids, let's make up our minds and get the next disaster story right.

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informed97May. 21, 12 1:04 AM

strat1954...yes, you missed a lot of rain over the last few weeks. dinojim and ma2188...right now, the type of storm that some Minneapolis drainage systems are designed for is over 20% greater than it used to be. A lot of work went into making sure this article is accurate. It is. Facts trump ideology. gofer...the extra water will go somewhere. We can either decide, or nature will decide for us.

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Willy53May. 21, 12 5:45 AM

Statistics bear out the increasing frequency of deluge type rain events. Cities have no problem in recognizing them, they cost them money in maintenance and repair, that's tax money, climate deniers. Trying to design newer storm systems that account for these rain events is simply wise planning. I have manged construction projects for the last 25 years in the in the Twin Cities and know first hand that significant rainfalls are more frequent: they require more extensive erosion control, turn clay sites into quagmires and often necessitate expensive soil correction. Measures that slow down the flow and congregation of storm water are cost effective. You can denigrate this article all you want but it doesn't change the incresingly expensive problem facing cities in the form of stormwater management.

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Willy53May. 21, 12 5:52 AM

One thing cities can do is quickly change their water and lawn regulations to catch up with stormwater management. Last night a policeman knocked loudly on my door to inform me that my side yard grass was way too long. I explained to him that the reason that area is allowed to grow is for erosion control, exacerbated by my neighbors new garage that changed grades enough to send several residential lots full of water right past my back door. It has been 100% effective in slowing the water and actually diverting it to different areas and stopped erosion. Yet my erosion control work is illegal and the 2 inch chemical laden grass of my neighbors is encouraged leading directly to increased runnoff and lakes full of fertilizer and pesticide. This has to change and new policies promoting natural landscapes are in the best interests of the city.

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