Gender equality: A two-way street

  • Article by: VANESSA KLECKNER
  • Updated: May 16, 2012 - 8:07 PM
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crustybayMay. 16, 12 8:35 PM

The idea that there is a gender gap is laughable. Women are over 50% of the population, they make the same wages as men doing the same job and they receive special treatment by government just as minorities do. Enough with this already!

goferfanzMay. 16, 12 8:41 PM

Vanessa should relax a little and be happy. Women outlive men by about 5.5 years, so that is a pretty sweet deal. Her Congress example is perfect, btw, as how can there be a "male bias" controlling free elections? The simple truth is many women arent willing to make the career sacrifices needed in business or politics, especially when the moms are younger and raising families. Women voters greatly outnumber male voters, so if more men are in Congress, that is a res ipsa loquitur of a fact there are career differences between the genders. The upside for women = the type A males die younger. Money or life, we all get to decide............

eman2001May. 16, 12 8:49 PM

I think the author drank the women's studies cool aid, readily available at a college near you. Take some time. Do your own research and read "The Myth of Male Power." And by the way you'll most likely be in a graduating class that is nearly 60% women.

gimbelMay. 16, 12 9:07 PM

Well, Vanessa, I hope you take a look at the three previous comments. You will have your opinion confirmed that men are all too eager to stand in your way, pooh pooh your ideas, pat you on the head and tell you to stop whining and get back into the kitchen. To play with the big boys you have to be willing to push them out of the way, if they won't move under their own steam. If you wait politely for them to usher you into their inner sanctums of power you'll find you've become their creature instead of an independent and powerful decision maker on your own.

gimbelMay. 16, 12 9:54 PM

"Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) is pushing a bill that would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy in the District of Columbia, but he has denied Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D), D.C.'s only elected representative, the chance to testify on behalf of the city's residents."

So there you are Vanessa. Holmes Norton can't have a say in what happens in her District. She has a witness she would like to bring before this hearing but she's not allowed to even be there herself. She can't have a seat at THAT table, oh no, the "men" led by Franks are going to make all the decisions about who can have abortions and when in the D. of C. .

Now, you were saying?...about the equality of women?

rshacklefordMay. 16, 1210:08 PM

"Simply put, men hold the majority of power in today's society. That means men get to choose what rights and opportunities women will receive. And many times, they choose inequality." ---- I don't believe that statement is very honest. Take for example that I see many more fathers nowadays choosing to become homemakers, giving-up their out-of-the-home 'business career' aspirations. The problem arises when the marriage implodes (for whatever no-fault reason), HE gets the house, the kids, the financial support, etc. And, SHE is totally angered! The family court judge easily recognizes that the father has been raising the kids 24/7/365 (since their birth), the kids are many times more bonded with 'dad,' and therefore want to live with him full-time. What this article failed to mention is: when you want the privilege of doing certain things, you must recognize the responsibility, potential downside(s), and live with them without whining.

union601May. 16, 1210:20 PM

And so the editorial staff at the Star Tribune has offered up yet another installment of “Oh woe is woman.” Ho hum. My goodness, all this talk about rights and opportunities but nary a word about responsibilities or obligations. So typical. The writer seems quite indignant that the halls of Congress as well as the roster of Fortune 500 CEO’s are dominated by men. I thus can’t help but wonder if she’s equally indignant that military casualty lists and occupational mortality statistics are likewise dominated by men – if only to an even greater degree. I suspect not, as this game of pick-and-choose (ahem) *equality* has been the modus operandi of feminists since day one. In other words, while the so-called “leadership gap” obviously troubles the young writer, the all too evident “expendability gap” apparently has curiously and inexplicably failed to catch her attention. Again, so typical. (Sexist hypocrisy is what I’d call it.) If there are to be equal rights, privileges, and opportunities, then there must be equal responsibilities and obligations. If perceived inequities in the former deserve consideration, irrefutable inequities in the latter deserve no less. Oh that feminists may someday gain a clue in this regard. Finally, the assertion that “…women are paid less because they are women” is utterly, patently, and laughably false. Here’s a little nugget of truth, as much as it may hurt some: Men and women of equal training and experience, working the same job and working the SAME NUMBER OF HOURS do in fact receive equal pay. Now, is that really so hard to accept?

gimbelMay. 16, 1210:22 PM

"What this article failed to mention is: when you want the privilege of doing certain things,.."

The "privilege"??? Really? So now it's a "privilege" for a woman to go to work and leave her husband at home to be Mr. Mom? Instead of a mutual agreement between the two of them, the woman has been granted the PRIVILEGE of working full time? And that means when the couple splits, she has to pay for that "privilege" by giving up her children?

This is what women are up against. This guy actually thinks he's making some kind of valid point, instead of proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a throwback to the 19th century.

mmcfetrMay. 16, 1211:38 PM

Things changed significantly in the workplace during my career. When I started, here were "men's jobs" and "women's jobs" Women's jobs with equal responsibility at the same company were paid less. That was fixed. But, sexual harassment continued, and there were different unwritten rules. When I retired a few years ago, I was encouraged that young men and young women with equal qualifications were paid equally. But there were still limiters on young women--largely the old boys network that still withheld information from women. I recall walking into a meeting to which I had not been invited regarding technical issues re a product I managed. All men in the room. I pointedly asked if this was a YMCA meeting. One of the men had withheld information, and got a pass despite my push. It is not over yet.

mmcfetrMay. 16, 1211:48 PM

p.s. My husband and I decided that he would leave his job outside the home to care for our children and be a homemaker. This was 25 years ago. He was often the only dad among many mothers as a volunteer at our kids' school events.


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