Tevlin: Stadium votes are a carnival of American democracy

  • Article by: JON TEVLIN , Star Tribune
  • Updated: May 8, 2012 - 9:01 PM
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jaynedrakeMay. 8, 1211:15 PM

I hate to sound frivolous to you, Mr. Tevlin, but many Minnesotans want the Vikings to stay, and feel it matters to the state and city. Oh, I know that to you the construction jobs are frivolous, and the downtown restaurants, bars and hotels that benefit from the stadium there are nothing. Perhaps these are just not good jobs, as some of my party's office holders think. But from my point of view I get tired of your columns that are often frivolous. Furthermore, I would ask you how all of us are paying through the nose for this plan. It seems to me one only helps to pay for this if one eats, drinks or stays downtown, or gambles.

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faustusMay. 8, 1211:24 PM

"Monday, amendments flooded into the speaker's podium like pleas from dying men." Some lovely prose and trenchant observation from one of the Strib's best. Thanks, Jon! The slightly jaded, bemused tone is perfect for the simpering fiasco that’s in the works at the capitol. It’s like the legislature is populated by endless clones of Grima Wormtongue from "The Lord of the Rings." An amendment to spend comparable money on housing for the poor and homeless, creating just as many construction jobs as a new stadium?: "Rep. Morrie Lanning R-Moorhead, sponsor of the stadium bill, called Clark's amendment 'not germane' and 'another attempt to spend money we don't have.' I swear, he did this with a straight face." God bless you, Mr. Tevlin for being witness to criminal mendacity and rapine, and just "telling it like it is." No embellishment needed – just report what you see and what’s said. What can we do at this point but that? I’d laugh if my gag reflex wasn’t being tripped by what’s happening at the capitol. I’m aware of a book title by P.J. O’Roark - "Parliament of Whores," about Congress/Federal government. I’ve got a book of my own in mind – a Minnesota version: "Legislature of Weasels."

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duckys66May. 9, 1212:32 AM

"and in the end we'll all pay for it, through the nose." *** The stadium is a good deal for the state and city of MPLS. Each player that plays in the stadium (both Viking players and opposing players) pay the state income taxes. That's 25+ years of income taxes on millionaires. That's millions and millions coming back to the state every year. Then there is the economic impact of having a world class stadium in which we can host a quarenteed Super Bowl, a possible Final Four, and literally hundreds of other events that aren't possible without the Vikings playing in the state. Now go do a little research on what happens when stadiums go under and think of what that side of downtown would look like when the city cratered the dome because it can't afford to maintain it without a primary renter like the Vikes. The simple reason that the Vikes can ask and will receive money from this state (or another one) is that it is too good of a deal to pass up. Letting the Vikes leave the state would be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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dmyttyMay. 9, 1212:32 AM

The definition of frivolous is: "Not having any serious purpose or value". What exactly is the serious purpose of sports? I think the fact that sports have no serious purpose is precisely why so many people enjoy watching them. The problem, of course, is that we do have many serious problems, and MN now has 400-600 million less ways to deal with them. "Oh well," says Ziggy, "let them eat cake."

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lordhawhaw1May. 9, 12 1:22 AM

I have more respect for the thief who robs one at gunpoint. At least the thief doean't pretend to be something he's not as he makes off with your property. And the thief doesn't waste time hiring a PR firm to try and convince you how wonderful it will be for you once he has your money and if he doesn't get it, he will leave and start stealing in some other city. America; "Land of the free and home of the brave". I think America; "Every man for himself", is more appropriate. We are all simple fools and deserve what our country has become.

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ollie3May. 9, 12 6:48 AM

If you think watching grown men dress up in spandex and hug each oyher on a grassy field for 3 hours is not frivolous, well, ok....just please dont come back this fall, liberal democrats, telling me to vote for someone who will look out for the little guy and demand the 1% pay their share. Dont come back when we're discussing voter id, and tell us about how its so important to let as many people as possible voice their opinion. Dont come back here, right wingers, and tell us about morality or family values, or especially that you think government spending doesnt create jobs. Because if either of the above supported this stadium plan, they are lying when they spew their rhetoric on these other issues, which they apparently think are the real frivolous issues, the principles which can be cast aside in favor of sports and entertainment.

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llcoolnelMay. 9, 12 7:49 AM

You're going to pay for the team if they're here, or pay for them if they leave. You might as well have the benefit of the team and avoid paying double or triple down the road. The Vikings are a part of the very fabric of Minnesota. As much as the lakes, the Walley, the Loon, the mosquito. You don't have to like them, but when over 2 million tune in every Sunday, that tells the bottom line truth. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's the way the world turns.

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dsollarsMay. 9, 12 7:55 AM

Watching in Ft Myers Beach. "At some point Monday, Thomas Huntley, DFL-Duluth got up and said with candor. "People are watching and see how stupid we look." . . .No matter on which side you stand, I can't help commenting, "CLASSIC!" Great article Jon

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jimmy01675May. 9, 12 8:10 AM

don't let the news coverage of all the fans fool you. of course the sports writers and personalities want the team to stay, and they have only supporters on the radio. it's their livielihoods. i talk to people, and almost nobody wants tax money to go to a billionaires private playground. the republicans have let the media pressure get to them. they must be voted out if they voted in favor of this.

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luxaeternaMay. 9, 12 9:07 AM

And what do we do when 3M demands a new building, or they'll leave? Or Medtronic? Or Best Buy? Or Target? Why do we bend over like peasants to please Zygi Wilf, the New Jersey developer? I won't be doing much dining in Minneapolis in the future. The thought that any more of my money might go to a football team would just give me indigestion.

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