Sid Hartman: Tony Dungy saw the boost from new stadiums

  • Article by: SID HARTMAN , Star Tribune
  • Updated: May 6, 2012 - 12:15 AM

"People don't want to be taxed to get the stadiums going. But both in Tampa and Indianapolis, it was so critical to having the teams stay and have success."

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TreetoplevelMay. 5, 12 9:54 PM

Public subsidies for professional sports teams are economic follies. Simply put, such economic subsidies are economically inefficient, are horrible economic development tools, and they fail to produce the returns on investment to the public that they tout. Overall, studies are conclusive in terms of their bad economic value compared to other investments that governments can make. Yet these bad ideas do not seem to die. Politicians get sports fever, they chum up with team owners, take their political contributions, or get captured by the “a major sports teams makes us a first class city” syndrome and therefore want to build a new stadium in their community. Finally, remember, professional sports is a business and this is supposed to be America, the land of capitalism. Since we are we supposed to subsidize businesses, especially ones that are profitable? What part of this do politicians not understand?

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driver1999May. 5, 1211:36 PM

"...they built what is now known as the St. Petersburg Times Forum..." Actually, it's now known as the Tampa Bay Times Forum, and has been since January. The newspaper changed its name as of 1/1 and the building's name was then changed.

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bhbhbhbhbhMay. 6, 1212:14 AM

Sid: We love you, we love the Vikings and we would like a new stadium to keep the Vikes. However, a new stadium will have NO impact on the Vikings success on the field. For proof look no further than TCF and Target Field.

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BCanniffMay. 6, 1212:31 AM

You shot down your own argument Sid. Despite the Twins new stadium and resulting income they still didn't keep their big RBI men and closer and look at the results. Imagine how many more games the Twins would have won so far this season with those players still on the team. Winning teams do not let their best players leave with nothing in return as compensation. New stadiums have not helped the Gophers recruit better players or attract more fans or make the Twins a better team. A new hockey arena the is sold out every game has not made the Wild a better team and the Wolves are still a long ways from being a good team despite getting high draft picks every year in a salary capped league. There is no doubt that the dome is obsolete and long overdue to be replaced, but it doesn't follow that a new stadium will suddenly make the Vikings win any more games.

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OroValleyMay. 6, 12 8:49 AM

If new stadiums create winners what happen to the Domes impact on the Vikes and Gophers. Not one championship in 50 years! How about the Target center, the Excel center, the Bank, and most recently the new Twins ball park and there impact on those franchises success. I actually agree with your column the other day. We should only support LOCALLY owned teams. The VIKES need to GO to the most poorly run state in the nation, CA.

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hjlazniMay. 6, 12 8:57 AM

I will write till people listen. Target has announced that they want the naming rights to the new stadium. Have Target formally commit to the naming rights up front to pay the Minneapolis and a portion of the Minnesota share of the public cost and it is a done deal. If the Wilf's or Target says no, they have egg on their face.

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badhomerMay. 6, 1210:39 AM

Sid said the EXACT SAME things in 1978 when he was writing articles every single day for a solid year about how great the Metrodome would be for everyone involved - the taxpayers, the vikings, the Twins and better yet the business community and FANS. What a complete FARCE!!! Last time I checked the vikings Super Bowl / World Championship trophy case is empty.

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ActTwoMay. 6, 1211:17 AM

Sid, my question is why does our dome have to cost $250 million more than Indianapolis's? Even when adding for inflation, Lucas Oil Stadium cost $250 million less than what is proposed here, makes no sense.

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philgorngieMay. 6, 12 5:11 PM

Target Field and TCF Stadium house 2 joke teams-stadiums mean nothing--just win baby!

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tmack24May. 6, 12 5:23 PM

Sid seemed to lobby more for a new Twins ballpark than anyone else; the thanks he got from them was switching radio stations. The thanks the fans got is a last place team and seemingly no effort from them to improve the team. Although Zigi seems to try harder than the Twins ownership ( it wouldn't take much). Why can't they share TCF Stadium with the Gophers? The Giants and Jets share a stadium. The Giants seem to be doing just fine sharing a stadium.

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