Read the replay: Timberwolves chat with Jerry Zgoda

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hjlazniApr. 30, 12 9:10 AM

WITH THE GOOD WOLVES START THIS YEAR FANS REALIZED THAT THE WOLVES FIRST ROUND PICK HELD BY THE NEW ORLEANS TEAM WAS NOT A LOTTERY PICK. HOWEVER, WITH INJURIES AND A TERRIBLE WOLVES FINISH, NEW ORLEANS MAY BE IN POSITION FOR AN EXCELLENT PICK, AGAIN BRINGING BACK VERY BAD MEMORIES OF TAYLOR'S AND HIS EMPLOYEES' BAD DECISIONS.

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snoozecruiseApr. 30, 12 8:38 PM

So it took Nash five years to find his niche in the NBA, and we're going to give up on Randolph and Beasely, even though there was no one to work with them last summer? Both have room for huge improvement, but both also have tried playing within overrated Adelman's less-than-creative system. IMO, you simply don't get rid of two of your more talented players. Love cannot in any way, shape, or form carry the Wolves, and with Rubio's return to effectiveness more than a year off, I am envisioning maybe .400 ball next year for the Wolves. But I guess that's tantamount to them winning the NBA championship.

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messyrabbitApr. 30, 1211:40 PM

@Zgoda Doron Lamb is a good name. If we use that pick I hope you're right about that. @snoozecruise So you're ripping the team's best player and a coach who has a long track record of success over many years and through several organizations. Beasely had a chance to be the feature act with Triangle Rambis as coach, look how that turned out. Rambis got run out of town and then this season Beasly sat on the bench for the part of the season where the team actually won more often than they lost. I like Mike and I hope he figures it out, but Adelman/Rubio/Love is the best thing to happen to this franchise since KG/Saunders. Enjoy it, would you please?

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snoozecruiseMay. 1, 12 8:53 AM

messyrabbit, first of all, Love is not the Wolves best player; Rubio is. Adelman, IMO, did not do a good job this year, especially with substitutions and player development. (Compare how he neglects and buries players such as Ellington, Beasley, Randolph with how Popovich gives his young and developing players consistent playing time.) Remember at the beginning of the year he started last year's lineup for the sake of "continuity" (continuity with what, the most inept season ever?) and didn't insert Rubio as a starter until there was an injury. Can't argue with his record, but every coach reaches a point where the game passes him by or he can no longer reach the the players, especially if he is locked into his system and has not evolved enough to communicate with and teach today's players AS THEY ARE and not as he wants them to be. At least one-third of today's players in the NBA, especially young ones, are immature for a variety of reasons. To single out Beasely and Randolph is ludicrous. Love and Rubio should rightly be the ones we build around. Giving up on Beasely and Randolph will be a mistake, IMO, because Love cannot take this team to the next level sans an effective Rubio. I think Beasely and Randolph have tremendous potential and with proper guidance and a coach who has the ability to work with them could contribute more than just about anyone we could trade for or acquire as a free agent. As JZ said, 99 percent of those who want to get rid of Beasely may end up regretting it, as he is BY FAR the most talented player on the roster. And Randolph is a legit shot-blocker and a potentially good player whose skills don't shine when playing with the the dull likes of Webster, Johnson, and other 12th man-types. Finally, a person doesn't need a psychology degree to work with and bring out the best in Beasely and Randolph; creativity, common sense, and a slight understanding of motivation strategies are all that is needed.

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MuddyOasisMay. 1, 12 2:13 PM

Randolph stinks. Using Nash finding a niche after a couple years is not the correct comparison, not even close. Nash is a physically limited / high IQ player. Randolph is a physically gifted / low IQ player. His proper comparisons are Gerald Green, Darius Miles etc.

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snoozecruiseMay. 1, 12 5:30 PM

JZ is the one who mentioned Nash not finding his niche until his 5th year in the league. My point is it's too early to give up on Randolph or Beasely, especially since the Wolves seem to be on a twenty-year plan with Johnson. Randolph actually has a very good feel for the game, but it's hard to show it when he plays with so many who have next to no feel. Plus, inconsistent and unpredictable playing time, courtesy of the overrated Adelman, makes it hard for some players to get into a groove. Anyone who has played the game knows that. And like EVERYONE else on the Wolves, Randolph thrives when Rubio is out there. Ridnour is a very poor point guard who creates nothing for his teammates. Look for Randolph to make a big leap next year. Only thing that can stop Randolph from being a very good player is Randolph.

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MuddyOasisMay. 2, 12 8:44 AM

Snooze - How can you say Randolph has a good feel for the game ? Are you only noticing the points and blocks ? Are you ignoring the blatant goaltends, rushed / forced shots, horrible offensive spacing / clogging up the open driving spaces, trying to draw charges 35 feet from the rim, falling down 15 times a game when someone bumps him ? You have to be ignoring this. Beasley is fine. Randolph is soooooooooo low IQ.

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snoozecruiseMay. 2, 1212:16 PM

Muddy, as you probably know from your days on the court, if you're out there with the wrong guys, it's impossible to show your stuff, much less be successful. In Randolph's case, it's impossible to show his natural feel for the game playing with most of the guys he was out there with. Having said that, based on what we have seen so far, you are right in that he hasn't, for the most part, proven what I am asserting. I don't know how any player, not just Randolph, is supposed to get into the flow with such wildly inconsistent playing time. What I DON'T like about Randolph is his moodiness and when Adelman sends him in, he walks over to the scorer's table like he's going to his execution. That's just so stupid and communicates to the coaches and fans that he doesn't seem to care. You and others may be right in that he may turn out to be a Darko. If so, that's entirely on him. I don't know if he has any fire in his belly, or if and when he will mature. His boneheaded plays, which you cite (and I enjoyed your exaggerations)have resulted in most people saying this guy is an idiot. Even JZ, my main man and BFF, said that! So I stand alone in my opinion regarding his natural feel for the game, and Randolph has left me with little data with which to argue on his behalf. If he's with the Wolves, let's see what happens next year. Now let me lay one more opinion on you: I think that after Rubio, Ridnour, and Barea, he has the next best handle on the team.

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MuddyOasisMay. 2, 12 3:55 PM

You forgot about Malcolm Lee. Secondly who needs handle at the PF - C positions ? Thirdly, I wasn't exaggerating. I won bets on 2 occasions that Randolph would fall down more than he'd have points.

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snoozecruiseMay. 2, 12 8:32 PM

I did forget Malcolm. Did he really fall down 15x? I watched very little of the last twelve games. Don't forget, there's lots of Hollywood acting going on out there.

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