Heritage Preservation Commission torpedoes Peavey Plaza plan

  • Article by: MAYA RAO , Star Tribune
  • Updated: April 18, 2012 - 11:11 PM

Heritage Preservation Commission's thumbs down on demolition could be overturned by the City Council.

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thunderballApr. 18, 1210:01 PM

Finally some good news about ideas on what should continue and views I very much agree with! The plan to redo Peavay Plaza has been rushed through with the addition to Orchestra Hall. The new design leaves little to the imagination etc. May the commission's decision be upheld !

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justsammyApr. 18, 1210:51 PM

Nothing here as to what's lacking in the old Plaza and what's so great about the new. Nothing. Zippo. Nadda. In the absence of making their case, I say change nothing.

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goldencroApr. 18, 1211:17 PM

kill the pool... keep the falls. The architectural detail could be respectfully retained. Imagine how Orchestra Hall or event a person on lunch break could use the new space. Who wouldn't welcome some grass in the grace of the city? Done right it would be fantastic.

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mplschefApr. 18, 1211:27 PM

The new design is awful, so this is a good thing. The larger problem is generational. The people who are running things now remember seeing their beloved victorian and Richarsonian romanesque buildings torn down and replaced with '60s and '70s modernism. As a result they don't respect that style and see no problem with destroying it. The generations after them have a different view, look at the popularity of Mad Men. Modernism is just starting to come into its' own. It would be a shame to tear down its' better examples. All architectual styles go through this process. The victorians and Richardsonian romanesques were also largely torn down by the people who watched them go up in their youth.

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treckerApr. 18, 1211:41 PM

I have been a fan of the Plaza for years. It's a great place to enjoy a lunch or a concert in the summer. Fix the fountains and leave it alone. How can you compare the high cost of destruction and replacement, to the cost of fixing the fountains and maintaining a great downtown park?

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DaHowieApr. 19, 12 8:29 AM

After hearing great things about Peavey Plaza, as a fixture for spring and summer festivals, when I moved from North Texas 11 years ago, I couldn't wait to see what all of hubbub was about. I was sorely disappointed. The plaza design, as a whole, is a mess. There is too much wasted space. The layout doesn't afford much space for adding the temporary amenities like vendors. Everything looks like an afterthought where the design was voted on and changed by committee. Upkeep is typical of what I now know as the half-assed way that Minneapolis does things. The Plaza needs to be bulldozed and rebuilt. Keep the committees out of the redesign and Minneapolis will have a nice park and plaza.

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jafblumpkinApr. 19, 12 8:52 AM

I've noticed it's a good place to spy on the Minneapolis Sasquatch.

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kntryboyApr. 19, 12 8:56 AM

I have no comments on the replacement, but I am all for demolition. I am a devotee of modern and modernist architecture, but the Plaza is far from being a stellar example. The architecture of Orchestra Hall was desecrated years ago, but that structure, too, was a mediocre example of modernist architecture. The poor man's Centre George Pompidou. We've lost many great modernist structures, including almost everything designed by Ralph Rapson. His original design for the Guthrie was(with the fins) was visionary. With them removed and replaced by a boring glass box, what remained wasn't worth preserving.

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windsorontApr. 19, 12 9:20 AM

I used to live two blocks from Peavey Plaza and I worked across the street. For the most part, I hardly noticed the plaza was there...except in the summer, when it was full of alcoholics, homeless people, and occasionally a summer performance of some kind. One thing I noticed in Toronto was they came up with their version of Times Square (Dundas Square) and it's alight with flashy billboards, news headlines, etc., and there's a television station right next to it. In the summer there are concerts, contests, new things happening in the city always show up at the Square...it's very secure and people do spend money while they're watching a concert or hanging out while the news is on live. With WCCO being right next to the plaza, it would seem like a perfect place for the Twin Cities' own version of this; a town square. Block E was not the right place for that because you've got too many other bars, clubs and nuisances surrounding it. But with Peavey Plaza, you have WCCO, Orchestra Hall, and other restaurants and shops on Nicollet Mall that attracts a more youthful, affluent crowd.

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nordeastmplsApr. 19, 12 9:44 AM

I think it would be a shame to lose the fountains and the waterfalls. The rest of it though could be overhauled. How about keeping and repairing the good parts and re-doing the bad. Why does it have to be totally demolished and replaced with something that looks, in my opinion, quite dull.

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