Recall fight grips Wisconsin

  • Article by: RICHARD MERYHEW , Star Tribune
  • Updated: April 10, 2012 - 5:09 PM

The outcome of the recall frenzy has implications far beyond the Badger State.

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sirboomApr. 7, 1210:39 PM

I'm sorry, but you cannot have government workers in unions and then have unions lobbying the government and binding all tax payers to a contract. It is a conflict of interest that is not fair to the taxpayer. All taxpayers should be getting the best value for the dollar with our taxes. That is defined as market-priced labor (not contract-priced), doing business in-state and ideally in-county to retain tax revenue and jobs, and a lean-running government abiding by the Constitution of the United States and that of the state at hand. There is zero evidence that union workers outproduce and outperform non-union workers when you perform a dollar to output quantity or quality valuation. Zero.

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chastaylorApr. 7, 1211:03 PM

Please do not comment on unions, it is inappropriate to disagree. Да здравствует союзов

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potter101Apr. 7, 1211:12 PM

sirboomApr. 7, 1210:39 PM I'm sorry, but you cannot have government workers in unions and then have unions lobbying the government and binding all tax payers to a contract. It is a conflict of interest that is not fair to the taxpayer. All taxpayers should be getting the best value for the dollar with our taxes. That is defined as market-priced labor (not contract-priced), doing business in-state and ideally in-county to retain tax revenue and jobs, and a lean-running government abiding by the Constitution of the United States and that of the state at hand. There is zero evidence that union workers outproduce and outperform non-union workers when you perform a dollar to output quantity or quality valuation. Zero.****************************Not logical, you have business collecting billions from government and if you want to talk about lobbies, it's night and day between business lobbies compared to the very few union lobbyist. Of course business gets together and set wages on industries and of course they try to pay as little as possible, alway hoping that less will pacify the workers. Unions try to get workers wages in dollars that are contemporary to the times through collective bargaining( Which I don't think their is anything that is more constitutional then collective bargaining.). But business has done better job then the unions, way better , production is up 80% in the last 30 years,literally none of the increased profit goes to the worker, wages for the worker is up 5-6% in those 30 years. But the wealthy income has gone up 275% in those 30 years ,so that is were it has all gone. Now of course everyone understands that the regressive want more of a disparity between the worker and the wealthy and their tool at this moment is to attack the organization that has the best chance of improving that disparity and that is what the regressives are fighting against. They want to cut all programs for the poor ,needy and old and simply give it to the wealthy in tax relief or actual free money.

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diogenesnyApr. 7, 1211:18 PM

Incidentally, chastaylor's snarky Russian comment translates to "Long live the union".

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falcon1679Apr. 7, 1211:24 PM

Public employees have a right to unionize and bargain just like any other employee. It's no more a conflict of interest that Republican representatives of the people in the back pocket of major corporations and wealthy doners. Studies have also shown without a doubt that union workers, and especially public sector union workers are are smarter and better educated that their private sector non union counter parts. After all, we're not dumb enough to buy the fanatic right wing rhetoric that labor and public unions are the main problem with this countries economy.

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diogenesnyApr. 7, 1211:26 PM

Meanwhile, here's how the Wisconsin GOP is "saving money": "The state GOP has lined up six fake Democrats to run in upcoming recall elections targeting Gov. Scott Walker and five other Republicans. (GOP spokesman Ben) Sparks says running what he called 'recall protest candidates' guarantees a clear primary date and ensures no Republicans will face a general election that day, when Democrats likely will turn out in huge numbers to select a gubernatorial challenger." So they're forcing the state to waste money on a pointless primary? Great stewardship of the state's money, guys.

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potter101Apr. 7, 1211:28 PM

Walker is toast and that is going to be a major step in the future of politics in America. I think people are tired of the trickle up economics that goes hand and hand with the regresives and realize that collective bargaining is the best solutions by far to give people the income that they deserve. There isn't a better time in our history then now for unions to prosper and increase their influence on the jobs market. This type of wealth disparity hasn't been seen since just before the great depression. I think that sounds of a possible threat to our economy.

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ronniereaganApr. 7, 1211:33 PM

Unions can be a good thing when there is a market limit on what they can and cannot obtain for it's workers. For example- let's say a union of Ford auto workers extract too much pay and benefits from Ford. Ford cars become too expensive and the market forces Ford to readjust. What market forces are for government jobs where there is no competition? What's worse is that money given to union workers is then routed back to politicans that make the contracts in the first place. Notice the people in this article against Walker directly benefit from his defeat. If Walker loses- government workers win. If Walker wins- every tax payer wins. Who is the special interest group here?

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pagejgApr. 7, 1211:49 PM

"Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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martytoilApr. 7, 1211:59 PM

The worst thing is when businesses are given tax breaks and instead of hiring more people with the extra money, they use it lobby the government for more tax breaks.

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