The many faces of marriage in America

  • Article by: EDITORIAL , Los Angeles
  • Updated: February 21, 2012 - 1:07 PM

A quarter-century ago, 65 percent of Americans thought interracial marriage was unacceptable for themselves or for other people.

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tbot2000Feb. 21, 12 1:15 PM

That, and add to it that love tends to always win out over fear, intolerance and hate. Equal rights for all!

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nasethFeb. 21, 12 1:18 PM

Acceptance requires time, yes, and a ruling on Prop 8 in the SC sometime in the next year or so. Though I don't have much faith in the Robert's Court post-Citizens United, the implications and precedent of the 14th Amendment are such that even they should get it right.

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goferfanzFeb. 21, 12 2:16 PM

This editorial poses a false premise, as America is a melting pot and the pure racial backgrounds disappear within several generations, ie most "Native Americans" are now predominantly other ethnic groups, ie, to belong to a tribe, a 21st century member may have to be, say, 20% of NA heritage.............Alas, this wont be the case in one's sexual orientation. Does anybody really think billions of the followers of the major faiths (Catholic, Muslim) are going to change their historical beliefs? It seems a stretch and that is being kind.....

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jdcarlinFeb. 21, 12 2:28 PM

goferfanz: "Does anybody really think billions of the followers of the major faiths (Catholic, Muslim) are going to change their historical beliefs?" Change? Not likely. Never had that belief in the first place? Absolutely. Even a majority of young evangelicals support same sex marriage. As more and more people come out, people make their decisions based on real life experiences, not propaganda. And when they see for themselves that gay people are just like them, with the same hopes and dreams as them, then it's hard for them to justify discrimination.

Besides, freedom isn't just the freedom to do what you approve of. Freedom means letting people do something you wouldn't necessarily do yourself. I might not own a gun or get an abortion, but it hardly means that I have to stop someone else having one. That's their decision to make, not mine, and certainly not the government's. That is the true meaning of freedom, letting people make their own decisions rather than let the government make their decisions for them.

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paulhansen1Feb. 21, 12 2:34 PM

I think that it is only fair that homosexuals be allowed to marry who they want. I also think that it is fair for me to have a harem, too. (Maybe I'm in the minority on that last one, but its how I FEEL!)

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jasperu2Feb. 21, 12 2:34 PM

goferfanz: I respect your opinion on the matter but fortunately I think you are completely wrong. Todays youth have friends, classmates and family members who are opening gay. Unlike the older generation when being gay was something to be hidden for fear of scorn and ridicule. Further, attendance and affiliation with all religious faiths is dwindling in this country and even those that do attend or are affliated with a faith are smart enough to think for themselves on such issues as fairness and human rights.

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runotkiddingFeb. 21, 12 2:45 PM

We should abolish marriage. A majority of young people between 18 and 35 have chosen not to get married -- so it doesn't work for them. Half the people who get married later get divorced -- so it doesn't work for them. Half the people who are married say they are not happy -- so it doesn't work for them. Marriage does not work for most people. Why spread the marriage disease to the gays?

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ajbeastro99Feb. 21, 12 2:46 PM

@goferfanz: Why does nearly every argument concerning gay marriage seemingly have to fall back to religion? I'm pretty sure that if gay marriage were legalized in MN nobody is saying that you would not still be free to practice any religious views you please, even if that means you belong to a church that does not marry gay people. Nobody who is for gay marriage is saying that Catholics, Muslims, Hebrews, etc. must also start marrying gay people as part of their faith if gay marriage is made legal. I personally would only choose to attend a church that would be accepting of such a practice but the point here is that gay people do not currently have any choice/freedom on the matter. Religion completely aside, they are even being told that they can’t even show up to a courthouse and get a marriage license. This is ultimately not a religious issue and any person or congregation who makes it into one is simply ignoring the definitions of equality and civil liberties. If a man and a woman who don’t even practice a religion can be legally married, why isn’t this practice also on the ballot to be banned this fall?

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dltrmtFeb. 21, 12 3:43 PM

goferfanzFeb. 21, 12 2:16 PM This editorial poses a false premise, as America is a melting pot and the pure racial backgrounds disappear within several generations, ie most "Native Americans" are now predominantly other ethnic groups, ie, to belong to a tribe, a 21st century member may have to be, say, 20% of NA heritage.............Alas, this wont be the case in one's sexual orientation. Does anybody really think billions of the followers of the major faiths (Catholic, Muslim) are going to change their historical beliefs? It seems a stretch and that is being kind............ And yet as time is going on they are. Your opinion is hardly a gauge of whether or not in time people will be more or even the same on acceptance of same sex marriage. This about time and the young of today becoming the old of tomorrow. Their thoughts on it probably will not change. You might hope they do today as you believe differently, but what will happen to cause them the change how they feel about it today? As the old pass on (those who do not believe in same sex marriage) and the young become them (probably teaching their children tolerance of others) a new breed of young taught by the now old will tilt any intolerance of same sex marriage onto the tolerant side of the equation and government will again be force to act as they were during the civil rights movement or during women's suffrage or the Black vote and interracial marriage. Like any productive society we grow in our beliefs to become more inclusive and less discriminatory. When you can accept that not all people are like you but still a productive member of society you will be more like the theological beliefs you think so highly of. If your scriptures are anything like the ones I read your God is a loving God whom speaks of us all being His children. I doubt very seriously that he would somehow exclude gay couples but instead will judge them on the life they lived and how they lived their married lives with the spouses of their choice. Did they honor His 10 Commandments or not? That is how he will ultimately judge them. What in His name gives you that right? And you are passing a judgment on them. Your judgment....That they should not be able to marry the one they love.

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ranger1873Feb. 21, 12 4:02 PM

"As time passes, there's only one direction this trend can lead." -- True, in terms of failed and flawed human reasoning. But since homosexuality cannot propagate the species, real marriage and procreation will continue to rest between one man and one woman, as God intended. Forever.

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