Will downtown St. Paul Macy’s eventually close?

  • Article by: ROCHELLE OLSON , Star Tribune
  • Updated: January 24, 2012 - 1:40 PM

Macy's, the only major big-box retailer remaining in downtown St. Paul, may be an endangered species.

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tink0077Jan. 23, 12 9:57 PM

After they leave, it'll take a decade to fill that spot. St. Paul retail is dead and has been for 30 years. Other than the Xcel, it's a ghost town at night.

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bellczarJan. 23, 1210:37 PM

Downtown St. Paul is famous for failed project after failed project. It hasn't been a retail shopping destination for decades. They had a chance to improve downtown St. Paul 13 years ago when they stole Lawson Software from Minneapolis. I said what they needed to do is put that office building in there without one square foot of retail space. But sure enough, the Lawson building included a whole floor of retail space, and all it did was cannibalize retail from the surrounding blocks. If they had left retail out of that project, it would have boosted what was already there instead of turn St. Paul into a ghost town. St. Paul is just too small to have block after block of retail space: Wells Fargo Center, Town Square, old Norwest Center, Galtier Plaza, Macy's. Get rid of some of that retail space and what is left would have half a chance to survive.

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robertcJan. 23, 1211:02 PM

Let Macy's leave on the condition that they get Target to take over the spot.

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liberaleliteJan. 23, 1211:20 PM

As much as I'd hate to see a downtown retailer go, the current Macy's building is a horrid edifice that's hostile to the pedestrian realm. St. Paul has very walkable people-scaled areas that are thriving... Rice Park and Lowertown. And then there's this giant swath of CBD where it's blocks of sterile 1960s architecture, grotesque parking structures and single-use blocks. Macy's is such an example... other than the doors on Cedar and Wabasha, and a couple pitiful windows, the building is completely out of scale to the pedestrian. The 6th Street side is completely dedicated to parking ramp access and makes the sidewalk troubling for people to even walk past. St. Paul needs more excuses to get rid of 1960s auto-oriented CBD architecture, as long as this doesn't end up as a block of surface parking I'll be happy.

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liberaleliteJan. 23, 1211:22 PM

bellczar, actually the Lawson space is thriving. Guess you missed out on the big benefit show at Amsterdam on Saturday night. It was one of the Strib's "big gigs" for the week. And the reason why St. Paul is turning around, especially lowertown, is because it's becoming an in-demand place for people to live. People living in the downtown "neighborhood" will drive up demand for shopping and restaurants.

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bellczarJan. 23, 1211:33 PM

Liberal, you missed my point. It wasn't that the Lawson space was a waste -- it was that the stores that moved into it moved OUT of existing locations downtown and left the block to the north and the block to the south bereft of retail.

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liberaleliteJan. 23, 1211:57 PM

Really? The record shop moved? The gallery moved?

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CountChoculaJan. 24, 1212:14 AM

Liberalelite has it nailed exactly. The parts of downtown that are doing well are the parts that weren't decimated by ill-conceived "urban renewal" projects of the 1960s that gutted the core. Decisions made in the 1960s were absolutely dreadful and scarred American cities forever. Fortunately, Lowertown and St. Peter St. retained their character, while the central third of downtown was stupidly razed and remains moribund to this day because of that. Macy's WILL leave. Let's just accept it and plan from there. That building should go away and replaced with loft-style housing. No, downtown St. Paul will never be a retail destination. But neither is Minneapolis. Both increasingly serve existing workers and residents. This city blew it by not putting the Twins on the Gillette plant site or across from Xcel. But don't shed any tears over Macy's. It's going to happen. It would be nice to see city leaders stop putting their heads in the sand and start planning now.

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beaglemomJan. 24, 12 6:19 AM

During the pleas for LRT construction it was essential to saving downtown St. Paul. I mentioned that there had been roads to St. Paul for years and that there had to be a reason to go there...they insisted it had to be built anyway.

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krisiepooJan. 24, 12 7:53 AM

A useful store there would be a grocey store! Oh my, can you imagine how wonderful it would be to WALK to the grocery store through the skyways... I don't care which one, but a Target seems more feasible since they can offer so much more too...

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