You can plan and build, but they won't necessarily come

  • Article by: JAMES LILEKS , Star Tribune
  • Updated: December 17, 2011 - 7:54 PM
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antisuburbsDec. 18, 11 3:03 AM

People have finally started to realize that maybe living 45miles from work and driving every day isn't a good idea. People want urban living where they can walk to everything they need, but have alternative transportation options for larger trips. This used to be the American way and it is just now being brought back to the surface after decades of being drowned by corporations.

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brokenglassDec. 18, 11 8:39 AM

People vote with their feet. Some people, many people, prefer to live in the suburbs to avoid the crime, congestion, noise, regulation lousy schools found in the urban environment. No corporation caused them to realize this choice. Leftists like the notion of free range chickens. They hate the notion of free range people.

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halfback2011Dec. 18, 1111:34 AM

I read this article and besides realizing that the writer is just a synic I couldn't get what he is trying to tell...interesting enough I lived for many years in San Juan and know that he talks about Paseo de La Princesa...I don't know what day he visited (Thanksgiving day?) but to imply that the parkway is a failure is just plain wrong, I can tel you he has no clue what he is talking about, people in San Juan love that walk, there are street vendors, artists, shows and local and turists use the parkway as a destination...big festivals take place there all the time...if you got out of a cruise and it was dead it doesn't mean that always is dead or that it is a failure. I'm currently a resident of the North Loop in downtown Mpls an don't undesrtand either why is he seem not to understand people wanting to move to the city, this area was pretty much deserted 10 years ago and it has become a new neighborhood attracting a lot of people, and the reason was that it was built and we came...I see the interest of people wanting to move to the city, I also work downtown and many people express their desire...I have noticed though that in this city it takes for ever to get anything done though

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antisuburbsDec. 18, 1112:32 PM

@Brokenglass Suburbs would not exist if automotive corporations didn't tear up all of our decent public transportation and bribe the govenment to demolish millions of urban houses just so people who CHOOSE to live farther away can get to work a tiny bit faster.

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brokenglassDec. 18, 11 6:43 PM

@antisuburbs Toss some ice into that beverage. Even stockingcap clad fixie pilots carrying their hemp grocery bags to corporate outposts such as Whole Foods to get their locavore veggies benefit from the efficiencies provided by interstate highways bored through Rondos. They should get over themselves and stop being little tyrants in trying to regiment everyone into their precious, communityistic paradigms.

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brokenglassDec. 18, 11 6:50 PM

Suburbs did exist prior to the death of street cars. Suburbs were growing long before interstates were built. Vectors of suburban growth have not been limited to interstates.

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georgina17Dec. 18, 11 6:52 PM

I have never seen the attraction of living in a city. If I wanted to live so close to so many other people, I would have moved to NYC, etc. I live in the suburbs because it provides brathing space and greenery without the expense of buying a large enough parcel further out to build a home, and it also allows for city water and sewer so I don't need to deal with those maintenance issues. I understand that some like to live and/or work in the city, but don't plan on the rest of us envying that lifestyle, any more than you would assume we all want to drive Hummers or own speed boats.

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west336Dec. 19, 11 7:54 AM

So you want.....what then -- whatever the people want? They want most of these things, it's just not universally accepted (and nothing will be). There's nothing wrong with a city that has a vision, but if you don't like it you could at least offer up better ideas of your own.

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west336Dec. 19, 11 8:00 AM

brokenglass: the 2025 plan is a reaction of "peoples' feet", not just what the city or govt. WANTS people to do. Just because it's written on paper does not make it a mandate. You can still huddle together 30 miles out of town and count down the minutes until immigrants and adversity reach you.

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brokenglassDec. 19, 11 9:10 AM

No question, the Met Council is leaning heavily on suburban cities to provide affordable housing, heavily subsidized by federal, state and city taxes. They do want to export crime and lower property values to the suburbs. It's surprising they can find any denizens of blissful urban neighborhoods to these remote, relatively unwalkable locales.

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