Racetrack slots are back in stadium mix

  • Article by: MIKE KASZUBA and ERIC ROPER , Star Tribune staff writers
  • Updated: May 21, 2011 - 11:21 AM

Supporters of a Vikings stadium appeared to be jockeying for position in a likely special session.

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lgren5735May. 20, 1110:37 PM

I hope this flies but I also hope some of the money could still be directed towards economic development. The state needs to attract new businesses to support and re-enervate Minnesota's economy. And presently that department is running on reserve in its fuel tank.

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wilnelmplsMay. 20, 1111:02 PM

It's the only realistic solution. The state and local governments just do not have the money for this sort of thing. We need to concentrate that money on other things, such as improving education and projects to create long-term job growth. Stadiums are always short-term growth with a big price tag. I am not crazy about the gambling aspect, but gambling at its heart is voluntary. You don't have to gamble if you don't want to.

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kevin125May. 20, 1111:58 PM

I like this idea because many people gamble and gambling is an addiction for some so it would help the state pay for the stadium and Actually did some research on the difference between metrodome site and arden hills site and going on the metrodome website. After figuring out how much revenue state would lose after going to tcf stadium for 3 years. The Metrodome Site would all together cost 934 Million dollars and for Arden Hills it would be 1.093 Billion and these are not fully exact but vikings would pay an extra 159 Million to play at arden hills including with fixing the roads without the roads which kind of should be paid by the state anyways it would of been 28 Million. So for an extra 159 Million vikings can have tailgating, parking and many more things that the metrodome cannot feature. And Again no Zygi cant pay for it all. He already paid for the team 600 Million and still didnt gain any profit yet serious he gets money from other nfl teams and that is for metrodome bills and player expenses extra (no salary cap last year) He gets around 15-20 Million all together if you were wondering. Please lets get this bill passed on Monday at Midnight or if it goes into a special session get it passed there.

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kevin125May. 21, 1112:08 AM

Also we cant say we can figure out the vikings stadium in a couple of years from now. It just the vikings lease ends after this season. So once the season is over thats it the vikings can do whatever they want. Some people will be like whatever they can but it is a big lost you may not see it know but it truly is. All those events at the metrodome the state gets $1.7 million each year which would be lost and vikings tax revenue they get would lose 20 Million and that. The stadium will trust me gain at least 400 Million profit in its lifetime at least. Also the superbowl would come to minnesota I almost can guarantee it (since new york got one and they have an outdoor stadium)plus the stadium would be new so they usually gain 400 million in economic input. The superbowl thing lasts for a week usually causing lot of money going into the minneapolis area. So this is an investment right now seem like a lot of money but once its build and few years down the road the stadium would be paid for. (Also vikings dont want to stay in the metrodome they already said that and the reason the dont want to stay is they dont get revenue. Actually did some research on the difference between metrodome site and arden hills site and going on the metrodome website. After figuring out how much revenue state would lose after going to tcf stadium for 3 years. The Metrodome Site would all together cost 934 Million dollars and for Arden Hills it would be 1.093 Billion and these are not fully exact but vikings would pay an extra 159 Million to play at arden hills including with fixing the roads without the roads which kind of should be paid by the state anyways it would of been 28 Million. So for an extra 159 Million vikings can have tailgating, parking and many more things that the metrodome cannot feature. And Again no Zygi cant pay for it all. He already paid for the team 600 Million and still didnt gain any profit yet serious he gets money from other nfl teams and that is for metrodome bills and player expenses extra (no salary cap last year) He gets around 15-20 Million all together if you were wondering --------- Get this bill passed.

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micamicaMay. 21, 11 1:40 AM

thursday the grand casino at hinkley ran a promotion offering a camcorder to any patron who amassed 150 points during that day---it requires five dollars of play to receive one point---so that means you would have to churn at least $750 to get the camera---not sure how many got them but looked like it was probaly over 1000---side note the camera sells for about 20-25 bucks at places like big lots but the picture made it look like a 200 dollar job from walmart---today at canterbury on track 5,818 people bet 178,178---that equals an average of $30 per person---that small figure $30 is one of the lowest in the country or the world for that mater---people in minn will send in through the slot machines but not at the track---

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fanupnorthMay. 21, 11 2:59 AM

"My bill had it completely dedicated for economic development, which to me is an extremely high priority," he said. Using racino money for a Vikings and Saints stadium, he said, was "not really" his goal. Isn't building a stadium economic growth? That may be the exact question everyone is trying to answer. But it should be a slight and I mean slight bias weight scale because of our PRIDE for the Vikings. My opinion is, it may not be "perfect" economic growth but its going in the right direction(As far as what we use the Racino money for). It's a forward direction. THE STATE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THE OPPORTUNITY THIS PRESENTS TO GET Arden Hills and the roads around it turned into a great asset. If we didn't build a stadium there, what would we do with Arden Hills sight/roads and how are going to pay for it. Keven125, great post by the way.

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Rhino_TMay. 21, 11 4:02 AM

NO, NO, 1000X NO!!... Has anyone asked the NFL if they want to see Racino revenues paying for stadiums? Well they do not want the affiliation with gambling... PERIOD!! The only stadium funding remotely related to gambling are the Ravens and Seahawks stadiums which have some lottery revenues involved in their funding. I think stadiums should be based on benefit and taking gambling revenues for Minnesota's tribes to benefit the Vikings is NOT funding based on benefit. It's funding based on polls that really say, any funding for a Vikings stadium that I don't have to pay is fine with me. That's why is polls so well, not for any profound stadium funding logic. And if we were to pass a Racino bill, aren't there higher priorities to fund? Healthcare, education, roads, etc. with the proceeds? The stadium issue needs to be resolved during a special session this year but NOT with Racino or Casino revenues. Racino is not the silver bullet that will save the day... it will actually cause much more harm than good and I'm sure the Tribes will take it to court if it passes and tie the matter up for years. Investments have been made based on the Tribes compact with the state, I don't see them doing down without a fight, which I think they would win in the courts. Funding the Vikings stadium project should be based on benefit, NOT by the results of silly polls that were unprofessionally conducted.

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toilet10May. 21, 11 5:22 AM

How can this be included in a Special Session. The vikings HAD HOW LONG to get something going and are now counting on a Special Session to get Special Treatment. Get The Budget Done and Go HOME The Vikings Are DAYS LATE AND 1.1 BILLION $ SHORT

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RossbergMay. 21, 11 5:25 AM

The stadium issue has no place in a special session. The public is totally opposed to funding it with their money and this proposal, being comparatively painless for taxpayers, merely is an effort to circumvent their will. With the bulk of the funding expected to come from the local partner taxpayers who have no way to recover their portion and are not allowed any say in the tax itself, this is simply a money grab by the state to offset its contribution to make the stadium look like a less costly project. There are hundreds of alternative ways Racino income could be spent and a stadium should be at the bottom of that list.

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ShoreviewerMay. 21, 11 5:47 AM

I agree with the idea that gambling is an excellent voluntary means of extracting funds from a limited number of people to help pay for the stadium. Some of those gaming tax funds can go to helping schools, etc. Another means of helping to cover costs is a special tax assessed to ticket buyers and the purchase of Vikings associated sports memorabilia (hats, banners, sweatshirts, etc.) I can't afford to attend a Vikings game but want the team to stay here. If I have to pay a small amount of additional money on a Vikings tee shirt, I am glad to do so.

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