Public pay, benefits set off new 'civil war'

  • Article by: BAIRD HELGESON , Star Tribune
  • Updated: March 22, 2011 - 1:55 PM

The Republican-led Legislature wants to pare the pay of employees in the public sector. Unions say public workers are being demonized.

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kellyesqueFeb. 12, 1111:40 PM

So then one can expect Gov D to give his version of the emancipation proclamation ensuring that all public employees will become safe zones against tax payer slander and finger pointing?

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knuthansenFeb. 12, 1111:43 PM

So how long will it be before the US goes the way of Egypt?

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jrc012907Feb. 12, 1111:44 PM

Let's discontinue the myth that "economic force" comes from stealing money from the private sector to pay public employees who then spend some of that in the private sector. The less the government steals from the private sector, the better off we all are. Sorry AFSME and MAPE employees, but your gravy train is over.

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buttercakesFeb. 12, 1111:46 PM

Yep, keep destroying the people that work for a living and what you'll see will be no different than the rebellion we just watched last week. The question isn't what money's going to the public workers, it's about the money that's disappearing. Instead of working to screw the workers, how about going after that $1.25 million to decide where to put high speed rail stops for a train line that's never going to run anyway. How about all those types of projects.

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larrymeaseFeb. 12, 1111:47 PM

It's sort of sad to see the "public sector" create pockets of poverty by looting what others have; the only way the "public sector folks" won't look like the southern slave owners of yesterday is by making sure that their privilege doesn't push others into poverty but that won't happen...

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hermanthehunFeb. 12, 1111:51 PM

The statement that "While the state government employee roster crept up in recent years, 157,000 Minnesotans lost their jobs" is interesting since tens of thousands of employees of school districts and local government have lost their jobs in the past few years. As an example, if you go to Saint Paul you will not find a regular education teacher aide in most schools. Even special education paras have been drastically reduced. Go into a school and ask to see the nurse, most days there are none. Elementary counselors - zip. Custodians - a max of two at most schools so the cleaning is shifted by days at some sites. That's without touching the teachers, librarians, and central office staff who have been cut. Don't say the public sector hasn't been cut because the schools are realing from the hits and the support for students like mine isn't there.

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ninnyhammerFeb. 13, 1112:02 AM

Republicans have derided 'class war fare' or 'class evny' for years; how is this any different?

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tiredretiredFeb. 13, 1112:04 AM

How can people be so blind? This sudden attack on public employees is not about budgets. It's about further driving down the American standard of living, so greedy corporations can ensure their supply of cheap labor. Instead of attacking those who have what we want for ourselves, we need to support them. If we don't, we will just slide with them, down that slippery slope to poverty.

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joycen62Feb. 13, 1112:07 AM

Numbers quoted don't look outrageous by any standards. Living in Florida, we have so many double-dippers. They put in their "20" in Minnesota, and "retire" to Florida to put in another "20". Rules have to be changed, but you can't take a meat axe to do surgery. After all, it was the politicians we elected who voted these programs in.

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mimalmoFeb. 13, 1112:09 AM

Get rid of the unions and instead put those union dues into a 401k. End publicly funded pensions.

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