Jim Souhan: Wishing for a bold trade? Liriano would've been bait

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posted by mcdoogle on Jul. 31, 08 at 10:42 PM | 

Not those fans who understand that the object of baseball is to get on base.

posted by Twins613 on Jul. 31, 08 at 10:43 PM | 

Souhan makes a good point. Liriano could have brought some good players.

posted by Eddiedog on Jul. 31, 08 at 10:43 PM | 

i know you expect to get scathed for writing negative things about "franchise", but that's because you should. this is by far your worst column i've ever read. where did you get the information that $12 million is reasonably affordable for a subpar (albeit power hitting) third baseman? especially for the twins? MAYBE garret atkins, but you don't touch young pitching for middle-aged, washed up hitting......

posted by larsod59 on Jul. 31, 08 at 10:46 PM | 

Jim . . . do me a favor and reach into to your pocket, grab that crack pipe, and throw it has far as you can throw it. You had to have been high on something when you wrote this article, as it is the most assine thing I have ever read.

posted by PigSkin on Jul. 31, 08 at 10:52 PM | 

...Even with a big fat Mike Lamb chop thrown into the deal. They took their chances already by signing one of our reject pitchers last year - what was his name again? Oh yeah, Carlos Silva. And they have an injured commodity in Bedard making it even less likely to bring a recently broken commodity in Liriano. If the Twins wanted to deal, they would have had to give up one or two of their stars -- something the Twins have never done since I've watched them. It takes creativity to trade for Beltre. Creativity and fortitude like whoever made the deal for Griffey Jr. Imagine Griffey playing DH for us with that beautiful upper-cut swing and the how many more homers he would have hit in the dome. But then again, Gomez, Span, Slowey probably earn 10% of what Griffey does. Cheap Twins.

posted by greigory on Jul. 31, 08 at 10:56 PM | 

It all depends on how well Liriano does over the long haul, including how durable he is. Obviously this argument Souhan makes is there to be made. It is a reasonable argument. Taking the other side is also reasonable. Just like the Santana trade, if Liriano had been traded then it would have been one for which the jury would be out for a few years. Having said that, I for one am glad they did not trade Liriano. I wanna see what he can do. Regardless of what Souhan says about his velocity and changing his arm angle, and the mediocrity of the league he is in, the fact of the matter is he has dominated, and piled up the strikeouts. Say what you will, his stats the last two months have been very impressive... in any league.

posted by johnnyonspot on Jul. 31, 08 at 10:59 PM | 

But for Beltre??

posted by Malaikhanh on Jul. 31, 08 at 11:02 PM | 

Jim, You officially replaced Sid as the DUMBEST sports writer. Please quit your job and move to Wisconsin so you can be around more people of your intelligence level. Thanks, Minnesota Sports fans

posted by Babynuts on Jul. 31, 08 at 11:04 PM | 

Where do I even start... - Liriano's been hitting 94-95. As fast as some guy who used to pitch here named Johan. If you wanna make the case that his dominating stats should be ignored, you better provide some reasons why. You don't list a single one. Yeah, he made a mistake 2 1/2 years ago and got a DUI. That's relevant today how? Josh Hamilton snorted Coke and injected Heroin for years. He's doing pretty good. - Beltre's not even very good. You may choose to ignore stats, but a quick glance at his raises red-flag after red-flag. He can't hit righties. He's 42nd in the AL in OPS. 12 million/year for a .771 OPS is absurd.

posted by micuhr on Jul. 31, 08 at 11:21 PM | 
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